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Reality: A Multidimensional Perspective Chat Workshop October 20, 2003 Facilitator: Christine Salazar Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:38:32 PM) hello everyone Heide (20-Oct-03 5:39:07 PM) (This user has entered Online Workshops PM) Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:39:13 PM) Welcome to our Online Workshop! The topic is: "Reality, A Multidimensional Perspective." Kevin MODERATOR/Galactic Counselor Apprentice Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:39:20 PM) To learn how to participate in the workshop visit the Online Workshops Format Page: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/mondayformat.html# Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:39:28 PM) If you have a question about the Chat Room Guidelines, they are posted at: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/chatrooms.html Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:39:44 PM) Welcome to tonight's workshop Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:40:00 PM) This workshop is related to the article that I wrote called "The Reality of Expressing Emotions" Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:40:13 PM) Which you can find at http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/reality2.htm Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:40:27 PM) The main points that I want to discuss tonight are revealed in the two titles. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:40:59 PM) We are going to talk about reality from a multidimensional (MD) perspective and how it comes from expressing emotions Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:41:12 PM) so what do we mean by reality? Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:41:29 PM) anybody? SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:41:46 PM) present 3d drama or surroundings Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:41:51 PM) how we define and see the world around us? Katja (20-Oct-03 5:42:06 PM) (This user has entered Online Workshops PM) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:42:24 PM) yes... we usually think of it as anything related to 3D Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:42:50 PM) I seem to have a delay in my connection Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:43:08 PM) Webster defines reality as the quality or state of being real Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:43:31 PM) real is defined as not artificial or illusory Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:43:43 PM) occurring in fact Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:43:52 PM) related to everyday life Cante (20-Oct-03 5:44:09 PM) (This user has entered Online Workshops PM) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:44:09 PM) existing as a physical entity Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:44:49 PM) sorry for the delay... I press enter and someitmes nothing happens for 10 seconds Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:45:18 PM) we think of reality as having to do with 3D life Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:45:26 PM) with the physical world we can touch Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:45:35 PM) we think of it as earning money, acquiring food and shelter and relating to other people through the five senses Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:45:45 PM) This all seems simple enough and straight forward Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:45:55 PM) But somehow we get hung up Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:00 PM) We are faced with challenges Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:10 PM) particularly in our relationships with other people Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:22 PM) our stumbling block is that we get triggered Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:27 PM) we are emotional beings Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:32 PM) we get angry and hurt Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:41 PM) we have fears Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:46:50 PM) and we often stuff the anger, pain and fear until it explodes Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:47:01 PM) who has ever been angry or hurt? SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:47:27 PM) who me? maybe once...LOL Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:47:34 PM) lol Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:47:37 PM) lol Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:47:46 PM) who has ever had fears? Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 5:47:50 PM) :-) Katja (20-Oct-03 5:47:59 PM) me Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:48:09 PM) yep Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:48:09 PM) who has ever stuffed any of these? Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:48:18 PM) guilty as charged Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 5:48:24 PM) me!!!! Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:48:28 PM) I think we all are SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:48:32 PM) my waist size is expanding because of it Cante (20-Oct-03 5:48:33 PM) me Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:48:41 PM) in our society we are taught that it is not ok to be angry Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:48:51 PM) we are taught that it is not ok to express anger Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:49:05 PM) we are taught that it is not ok to express hurt and fear either Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:49:16 PM) we learn at an early age to stuff our feelings. Cante (20-Oct-03 5:49:26 PM) this room is very slow tonight Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:49:54 PM) yes it is very slow Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:50:08 PM) when I was a child I was not happy with many things (including being on this earth) SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:50:09 PM) something is up with the server...the icons aren't even all there Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:50:18 PM) I cried a lot in frustration Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:50:30 PM) and I was ridiculed by my brothers for crying and told that I was a cry baby Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:51:25 PM) sorry about the slowness, is everyone ok with just living with it? SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:51:35 PM) yep Ryoku_Midori (20-Oct-03 5:51:37 PM) Yes, ma'am, Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:51:45 PM) thanks Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:51:46 PM) es Katja (20-Oct-03 5:51:46 PM) yes Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:51:58 PM) my parents just told me to grow up and be quiet or they ignored me Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:52:19 PM) so I learned not to express my pain because it brought me more pain Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:52:31 PM) I learned not to express my anger because it brought me more pain also Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:52:44 PM) and I learned to fear showing who I was because pain and anger might burst out of me Ryoku_Midori (20-Oct-03 5:52:51 PM) (This user has left DigiChat) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:52:54 PM) But I still had all that pain and needed to figure out what to do with it. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:53:04 PM) Since I couldn't express it and release it I tried not to feel it. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:53:14 PM) I got into my head, into my intellect Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:53:24 PM) I thought about things and I rationalized them Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:53:34 PM) anything so I didn't have to feel them Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:53:44 PM) Lets take a Q/A here Cante (20-Oct-03 5:53:53 PM) sure Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 5:53:55 PM) To ask a question type ? Rachel HOSTESS/Galactic Counselor App Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 5:54:10 PM) After you post "?" your question will be answered in sequence. I will notify you when you are next in line by Private Message "yn". Please have your question typed. When it is time to SEND your question, I will cue you on the MAIN screen by typing your name. Have a wonderful time! Rachel HOSTESS/Galactic Counselor App Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 5:54:27 PM) Questions will be answered in sequence beginning after Christine announces it is time for questions to begin. Please don't post your ? until (Facilitators First Name) announces it's question time. Rachel HOSTESS/Galactic Counselor App Kevin MODERATOR/GAL. CSLR. APP. (20-Oct-03 5:54:31 PM) (This user has left DigiChat) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:55:04 PM) so are there no questions or are you all so stunned SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:55:16 PM) of the 9 participants tonight, I feel at least 7 or more are displaying alot of AI tendencies....any comment of that.....staying in our heads is safe. Heide (20-Oct-03 5:55:25 PM) none at this time Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:55:50 PM) staying in our heads seems to be safe Ryoku_Midori (20-Oct-03 5:56:05 PM) (This user has entered Online Workshops PM) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:56:09 PM) but when we go on we will see that in the long run that it really isn't safe SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:56:17 PM) yes, we can come up with some very creative ways of not feeling Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:56:30 PM) it just prolongs the pain Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:56:40 PM) ok if there are no questions let's go on SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 5:56:41 PM) I agree Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:56:54 PM) I learned to stuff my emotions Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:57:07 PM) I prided myself on the fat that nothing affected me Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:57:21 PM) I was like a duck in water where it all rolled off my back with no effect Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:57:32 PM) but as more and more hurt and anger got stuffed, I would sometimes get to an explosion point. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:57:47 PM) This is what happened with my friend Thomas (in the article - this is not his real name by the way) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:57:58 PM) I was hurt by many little things that he said to me Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:58:05 PM) and I never said anything Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:58:14 PM) I was afraid to say how I really felt about things Kevin MODERATOR/Galactic CSLR APP (20-Oct-03 5:58:20 PM) (This user has entered Online Workshops PM) Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:58:23 PM) I was afraid I would lose his friendship Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:58:42 PM) One time I had said that I was upset about something Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:58:53 PM) and he didn't speak with me for a couple of months Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:59:31 PM) anyway I was a big girl, I could take it Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 5:59:46 PM) But finally, for almost no apparent reason, I got the last straw that broke the camel's back Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:00:01 PM) Thomas said one tiny thing that pushed my buttons and I exploded and let out all the anger I had been stuffing. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:00:15 PM) Thomas reacted by letting out all of his hurt and anger too. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:00:25 PM) and probably we not only let out hurt and anger from our relationship, but also some from past situations as well. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:00:37 PM) His Inner Child and my Inner Child found it just too great an opportunity for expression to pass up. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:00:52 PM) of course, even in our venting, being two very intellectual beings we presented our arguments very logically. Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:01:10 PM) But unfortunately the end result was that the friendship did not stand up to so much pain at one time and it dissolved Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:01:40 PM) Does anyone have any questions at this point... if so we can have a QA Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 6:01:54 PM) To ask a question type ? Rachel HOSTESS/Galactic Counselor App SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:02:07 PM) ? Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 6:02:12 PM) After you post "?" your question will be answered in sequence. I will notify you when you are next in line by Private Message "yn". Please have your question typed. When it is time to SEND your question, I will cue you on the MAIN screen by typing your name. Have a wonderful time! Rachel HOSTESS/Galactic Counselor App Rachel-Hostess/Galactic Cslr App (20-Oct-03 6:02:17 PM) sirius x Kevin MODERATOR/Galactic CSLR APP (20-Oct-03 6:02:19 PM) If you wish to ask Christine a question, type "?" Have your question ready. The Hostess will let you know when it is your turn by private message "yn". Kevin MODERATOR/Galactic Counselor Apprentice SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:02:34 PM) so was your IC ok after the vent? Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:02:52 PM) I had a really hard time of it Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:03:04 PM) because I realized I was out of my integrity in my vent Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:03:18 PM) and his reaction was to strong Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:03:22 PM) I was totally devastated SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:03:44 PM) do to the mirror your friend displayed with regards to something you were not doing with your IC possibily Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:03:48 PM) I think I would know better now how to deal with the whole situation SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:04:07 PM) like honor your IC and yourself Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:04:23 PM) that was certainly a strong lesson that I was getting SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:04:33 PM) after all it's all about you Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:04:40 PM) and that was why I got into the situation in the first place SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:04:54 PM) complete Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:04:58 PM) I didn't honor my IC when I didn't express my hurt in the first place Heide (20-Oct-03 6:05:10 PM) ? Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:05:24 PM) go ahead Heide Heide (20-Oct-03 6:05:31 PM) did you know about your IC at that time when it happened or later Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:06:01 PM) I knew about my IC at the time Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:06:15 PM) but I was just starting to learn about how to deal with her Heide (20-Oct-03 6:06:24 PM) did you feel you did not have enought experience? Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:06:24 PM) I had neglected her for so long Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:06:40 PM) because I had been stuffing my feelings for so long Heide (20-Oct-03 6:06:45 PM) o.k. that answeres that SIRIUS X (20-Oct-03 6:06:52 PM) that is such a great point Heide (20-Oct-03 6:07:08 PM) complete Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:07:21 PM) finding a good relationship with the IC is a long process Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:07:24 PM) for me at least Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:07:36 PM) * Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:07:47 PM) anymore questions? Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:08:03 PM) ok let's continue Katja (20-Oct-03 6:08:12 PM) how woukd you do that situation now Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:08:13 PM) I realized that I had got into this situation because I had not been current with my feelings Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:08:40 PM) let me stop and answer your question Katja Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:09:01 PM) first I think now I would not likely get into that situation Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:09:23 PM) but with the better understanding that I have now Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:10:05 PM) I think that I would have dealt with it without the old stuff pushing it from behind Christine FACILITATOR, Glctc Cnslr (20-Oct-03 6:10:45 PM) I find that now I stop and look at things and find

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